{"id":1594,"date":"2019-04-10T15:19:47","date_gmt":"2019-04-10T13:19:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lab.library.universiteitleiden.nl\/abnormalhieratic\/?post_type=ubl_ah_papyrus&#038;p=1594"},"modified":"2022-05-02T12:33:51","modified_gmt":"2022-05-02T10:33:51","slug":"p-louvre-e-7856-verso","status":"publish","type":"ubl_ah_papyrus","link":"https:\/\/lab.library.universiteitleiden.nl\/abnormalhieratic\/papyri\/p-louvre-e-7856-verso\/","title":{"rendered":"P. Louvre E 7856 verso"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Recommended edition<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>K. Donker van Heel,\n\u2018Papyrus&nbsp;Louvre&nbsp;E&nbsp;7856: verso and recto: leasing land in the reign of Taharka\u2019,&nbsp;<em>Rd\u00c9<\/em>&nbsp;49 (1998), 91-105.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Transcription<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/lab.library.universiteitleiden.nl\/abnormalhieratic\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/12\/P-louvre-7856-verso-final.svg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-386\"\/><figcaption>  <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/lab.library.universiteitleiden.nl\/abnormalhieratic\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/P-louvre-7856-verso-02.06.19.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Transcription of P. Louvre 7856 verso in PDF<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Transliteration<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"transliteration wp-block-list\"><li>[\u1e24\ua723.t-sp] 19.t \u0131\u0357bd-II \ua723\u1e2b.t (sw) 4.<\/li><li>[\u1e0ed] w\ua723\u1e25-mw \ua725r-(n)- I\u0357mn s\ua723 Hr=s-n=f n w\ua723\u1e25-mw<\/li><li>[P\ua723]-d\u0131\u0357-I\u0357mn-I\u0357p s\ua723 \u2e22D\u0131\u0357-sw\u2e23-Mn\u1e71 \u1e25n\ua725 Rr\u0131\u0357 s\ua723 Wn-nfr \u1e25n\ua725 P\ua723y=s-d\u0131\u0357 \u2026 [s\ua723]<\/li><li>[\u1e24]rw\ua723 \u1e25n\ua725 \u2e22P\ua723\u2e23-d\u0131\u0357-I\u0357mn-I\u0357p s\ua723 P\ua723-n\u1e2bt.\u1e71-m-pr-I\u0357s.t \u1e25n\ua725 w\ua723\u1e25-\u2e22mw\u2e23<\/li><li>[P\ua723]-whr s\ua723 \u2e22P\ua723\u2e23-d\u0131\u0357-I\u0357s.t dm\u1e0f s 5: d\u0131\u0357=w n=n p\ua723y \ua723\u1e25-<\/li><li>[\u1e25t]p \u0131\u0357 sk\ua723 r=w (?) \u2e22\u0131\u0357\u2e23 p\ua723 \u2e22nty \u0131\u0357w=f \u0131\u0357r=f (n) w\u1e0f\ua723.t\u2e23 r=w \u2e22w\ua725 5\u2e23 dn\u0131\u0357.t<\/li><li>[\u2026] \u0131\u0357w p\ua723 1\/10 p\ua723 nty \u0131\u0357w=f \u0131\u0357 \u0131\u0357r (n) n\ua723 \u0131\u0357t w\ua7253. I\u0357.\u0131\u0357r n\ua723 s\u1e96(.w) pr I\u0357mn<\/li><li>[\u1e2b]\ua723y p\ua723 \u2e22\ua723\u1e25\u2e23 rn(=\u0131\u0357) (\u0131\u0357w) mn \u2e22d\u0131\u0357.t\u2e23(=\u0131\u0357) md nb \u0131\u0357 \u1e0fd.\u1e71=s \u0131\u0357rm=w.<\/li><li>[P\ua723 mtr]-s\u1e96 \u1e2answ-\u2e22\u0131\u0357\u2e23.\u0131\u0357r-d\u0131\u0357.t-s s\ua723 P\ua723-\u2e22d\u0131\u0357\u2e23-I\u0357mn-I\u0357p.<\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Translation<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>[Regnal year] 19, month II of akhet,\n(day) 4.<\/li><li>[Has said the choachyte Arenamun son of\nHerysenef to the choachyte<\/li><li>[Pe]teamunip son of Tesmont and Rery son of Wennefer and Paysdi\u2026 [son of]<\/li><li>[H]erwa and Peteamunip son of\nPanekhtyemperese and the choachyte<\/li><li>[Pa]weher son of Petiese, in total 5\nmen: \u201cThey have given us this endowment-<\/li><li>field to plow \u2026 for what it will produce\nas remainder \u2026 (each) one (of) 5 a share (?),<\/li><li>[\u2026], whereas the 1\/10 is what it will produce (out of) the grain (?),\n(each) one 3 (sacks (?)). The scribes of the Domain of Amun will<\/li><li>measure the field in my name, (whereas)\nI have no issue at all to discuss with them.\u201d<\/li><li>[The witness]-scribe Khonsirdis son of\nPeteamunip.<\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Notes<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Line 3: Reading <span class=\"transliteration\">P\ua723y=s-di\u0357<\/span> based on Vittmann in Donker van Heel, Hoogendijk, and Martin (eds), <em>Festschrift Vleeming<\/em>, 94 (note to Col. II, line 16).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Questions about this manuscript<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Question 1:<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>What is the determinative of <span class=\"transliteration\">Hr=s-n=f<\/span> in line 1 and <span class=\"transliteration\">Rr\u0131\u0357<\/span> in line 3? Why would that be?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<details><summary>Answer to Question 1<\/summary>For some reason, in personal names the abnormal hieratic scribes had a preference for the seated child determinative rather than the seated man determinative. They generally avoided writing the divine determinative in theophoric personal names.<\/details>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Question 2:<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>When you compare the man with hand to mouth determinative in line 8 in <span class=\"transliteration\">rn<\/span> \u2018name\u2019 and <span class=\"transliteration\">md<\/span> \u2018word, issue\u2019 with the same sign in <span class=\"transliteration\">\u0131\u0357<\/span> in line 6 (three times), what is the exact difference?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<details><summary>Answer to Question 2<\/summary>Apparently the so-called tilted 2 that is usually written on top of a vertical stroke to denote the abnormal hieratic man with hand to mouth determinative can be abbreviated, and is sometimes not written at all.<\/details>\n","protected":false},"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","template":"","class_list":["post-1594","ubl_ah_papyrus","type-ubl_ah_papyrus","status-publish","hentry","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/lab.library.universiteitleiden.nl\/abnormalhieratic\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/papyri\/1594","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/lab.library.universiteitleiden.nl\/abnormalhieratic\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/papyri"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/lab.library.universiteitleiden.nl\/abnormalhieratic\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/ubl_ah_papyrus"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lab.library.universiteitleiden.nl\/abnormalhieratic\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1594"}],"version-history":[{"count":16,"href":"https:\/\/lab.library.universiteitleiden.nl\/abnormalhieratic\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/papyri\/1594\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1940,"href":"https:\/\/lab.library.universiteitleiden.nl\/abnormalhieratic\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/papyri\/1594\/revisions\/1940"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/lab.library.universiteitleiden.nl\/abnormalhieratic\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1594"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}